I see it impossible that another men could be revealing God better than Jesus, the one who came out of Him. Yet He said there were things His disciples were not ready to bear or understand but, it's hard to believe Jesus' job was incomplete.
If I'm honest enough I'm going to dare to say I don't believe the traditions I once believed and I don't care being rejected by men, but from God and Jesus.
No man but Jesus knew God better than Himself. God dwelt in His body so they were ONE spiritually, but not the same. Pick up your stones when I say Peter neither Paul could be more enlightened than Jesus regarding God's issues and here are few hints:
“Do not be called rabbis, leaders or fathers...” (Jesus on Matt. 23:8-10)
I just contrasted this teaching of Jesus vs Paul's and I've fond Shaul Paul loved to be called “father” and he addressed as sons several of his disciples (I Cor. 4:17; I Tim. 1:2, 18; II Tim. 1:2; Phm 1:10). In a letter to Philemon (Phm. 1:8, 19) he made used of a sort of authority I never read or heard of from the Lord Jesus and before that claim, he said he avoided being compulsive (Phm. 1:14) which is not true.
Jesus spoke about equality (Matt. 23:8) and He also said what I would invite you to read on Matthew 20:25-28.
Can I demand things from BROTHERS by using my “spiritual” authority?
I felt Paul´s words somewhat biased on things linked to authority I never heard from Jesus´ teachings. “It shall not be so among you…”He said (Matt. 20:26).
Is it Jesus´ teaching or Paul´s what I need to obey? So I'd better choosing Jesus' guidelines, particularly when Paul seemed to be the one founding churches under a hierarchical coverage the rest of the apostles too seldom wrote about.
Yes! I'm a sinner! Use your stones to shoot down your sins too, to lord your traditions over me.
The RCC chose Peter as their “cornerstone”, but Christian foundation rests on Jesus' example.
Several religious traditions are after the RCC´s as well as their commercial calendar we now have rulings as X-mass or those days like Sunday, Moonday...
If you have liked the Pauline epistles, I have liked more the 4 Gospels.
Yes! Ignore me and ban me from wherever you want. If you are perfect enough and holy as Jesus and God wants us to be, just follow Paul´s command: 1Co_5:11 But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one.
Excommunicate me but I'm not longer the one I was and I've planned to remove the leaven I had.
Have you wondered why we have those churches emptied?
A brief random list of Jesus' commands:
1) I don't need another teacher, leader or father (Matt 23:8-10)
2) My “good” deeds are not to be shown in boastful arrogance (Matt 23:5-6)
3) I should learn to be humble (Matt 23:11-12)
4) Christianism is not another means to make profits or material gain (Matt 23:14-15)
5) I will not twist the former law with convenient human traditions (Matt 23:16-22) less they be reinforced by swearing lies (Lev. 11:11) misusing God's name.
6) Jesus is not God the Father, but His Son “...who was made a little lower than the angels...” (Heb. 2:9). I have settled down -just for me - that RCC invented that doctrine of the trinity and Jesus spoke for Himself: “My teaching is not mine, but He who sent me. If any man is willing to do His will (…) or whether I speak of myself.” (John 7:16-17). How come they could be the same?
7) I don't need to seek my glory, but God's. “He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory, but he who is seeking the glory of the ONE who sent him.” (John 7:18)
8) I don´t need to judge because he ordered me to avoid it, otherwise, I´ll be judged (Matt. 1-2). Jesus´s words will judge me the last day (John 12:48)
9) God´s commamets are eternal and Jesus (Jn 12:50) said they would no cease untill the earth and heavens would have passed and he spoke from the Father´s mouth.
10) God is able to kill both the bod and the soul (Matt. 10:28) Why didn´t He talked about the "spirit" of men here? I was taught we´re spirit, body and soul but Jesus said another thing made of two things that could be saved, the body and its soul (which is the real me, my ID). James also confirmed a body without its spirit is dead, like a dead faith fruitless (James 2:26) and contrary to Jesus Heb. 4:12 seemed to be backing up the trinitarian doctrine... No doubt Jesus spoke about the material nature of the flesh and of inmaterial / spiritual nature of the souls of each man. Mind exists because I have a body and living energy in it, yet both aren´t not made of the same elements. As God is Spirit (Jn 4:24) I´m also a body abled to have a living spirit.
11) Jesus praised the open and spontaneous attitude of Zacheus. His decision was sharing half of his wealth with the needy and the giving back of the money "he might have gotten the wrong way" from his people, as a restitution (Lk 19:8). Zacheous willfully turned away to follow God´s ways as a son of Abraham (Lk 19:9). What a change of mind! That was the same attitude His apostles did when they also left what they have to serve and study from Him. John´s teaching was coherent with Jesus´ (Lk 3:11) John sought the turning back to mercy and frugal compassion (Lk 3:13-14b) where several hearts were turned back to repentance and love (Lk 1:17b). Did John called people to live like a poor? No! It wasn´t a call to the material abandonement he was living for years and, properly, Zacheous left 50 percent of what he had! Who would not turn back to love and justice that way?
It could be assumed Jesus was living the same way John would have lived (Matt 3:11, 14) and John witnessed himself what he saw in Jesus, for He was blameless and it was proved to him GOD chose Him (Jn 1:29, 31, 33-34). Something special he attested about Jesus (Jn 1:30; Lk 3:6). Can I believe Jesus was morally coherent when asking those things He asked His followers and apostles? (Matt. 19:27, 29). Yes! If He was rich His lifetime He left what He earthly got to serve His Father those years in preaching. He had no place to dwell or sleep (Matt. 8:20) because He wanted His followers to depend on God´s daily provisions and He surely left a bunch of things behind (Lk 9:61-62).
Jesus was morally and spiritually fitted to ask those things He left Himself first (Jn 10:38).
12) Does the church have power to save people and itself, as the RCC believed, as well with many people? (Matt. 7:22-23). For "on that night there will be two in one bed; one will be taken... There will be two grinding the same place... one will be left." (Lk 17:34-36) Where am I resting or grinding now?
To be continued… September 22, 2014
If I'm honest enough I'm going to dare to say I don't believe the traditions I once believed and I don't care being rejected by men, but from God and Jesus.
No man but Jesus knew God better than Himself. God dwelt in His body so they were ONE spiritually, but not the same. Pick up your stones when I say Peter neither Paul could be more enlightened than Jesus regarding God's issues and here are few hints:
“Do not be called rabbis, leaders or fathers...” (Jesus on Matt. 23:8-10)
I just contrasted this teaching of Jesus vs Paul's and I've fond Shaul Paul loved to be called “father” and he addressed as sons several of his disciples (I Cor. 4:17; I Tim. 1:2, 18; II Tim. 1:2; Phm 1:10). In a letter to Philemon (Phm. 1:8, 19) he made used of a sort of authority I never read or heard of from the Lord Jesus and before that claim, he said he avoided being compulsive (Phm. 1:14) which is not true.
Jesus spoke about equality (Matt. 23:8) and He also said what I would invite you to read on Matthew 20:25-28.
Can I demand things from BROTHERS by using my “spiritual” authority?
I felt Paul´s words somewhat biased on things linked to authority I never heard from Jesus´ teachings. “It shall not be so among you…”He said (Matt. 20:26).
Is it Jesus´ teaching or Paul´s what I need to obey? So I'd better choosing Jesus' guidelines, particularly when Paul seemed to be the one founding churches under a hierarchical coverage the rest of the apostles too seldom wrote about.
Yes! I'm a sinner! Use your stones to shoot down your sins too, to lord your traditions over me.
The RCC chose Peter as their “cornerstone”, but Christian foundation rests on Jesus' example.
Several religious traditions are after the RCC´s as well as their commercial calendar we now have rulings as X-mass or those days like Sunday, Moonday...
If you have liked the Pauline epistles, I have liked more the 4 Gospels.
Yes! Ignore me and ban me from wherever you want. If you are perfect enough and holy as Jesus and God wants us to be, just follow Paul´s command: 1Co_5:11 But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one.
Excommunicate me but I'm not longer the one I was and I've planned to remove the leaven I had.
Have you wondered why we have those churches emptied?
A brief random list of Jesus' commands:
1) I don't need another teacher, leader or father (Matt 23:8-10)
2) My “good” deeds are not to be shown in boastful arrogance (Matt 23:5-6)
3) I should learn to be humble (Matt 23:11-12)
4) Christianism is not another means to make profits or material gain (Matt 23:14-15)
5) I will not twist the former law with convenient human traditions (Matt 23:16-22) less they be reinforced by swearing lies (Lev. 11:11) misusing God's name.
6) Jesus is not God the Father, but His Son “...who was made a little lower than the angels...” (Heb. 2:9). I have settled down -just for me - that RCC invented that doctrine of the trinity and Jesus spoke for Himself: “My teaching is not mine, but He who sent me. If any man is willing to do His will (…) or whether I speak of myself.” (John 7:16-17). How come they could be the same?
7) I don't need to seek my glory, but God's. “He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory, but he who is seeking the glory of the ONE who sent him.” (John 7:18)
8) I don´t need to judge because he ordered me to avoid it, otherwise, I´ll be judged (Matt. 1-2). Jesus´s words will judge me the last day (John 12:48)
9) God´s commamets are eternal and Jesus (Jn 12:50) said they would no cease untill the earth and heavens would have passed and he spoke from the Father´s mouth.
10) God is able to kill both the bod and the soul (Matt. 10:28) Why didn´t He talked about the "spirit" of men here? I was taught we´re spirit, body and soul but Jesus said another thing made of two things that could be saved, the body and its soul (which is the real me, my ID). James also confirmed a body without its spirit is dead, like a dead faith fruitless (James 2:26) and contrary to Jesus Heb. 4:12 seemed to be backing up the trinitarian doctrine... No doubt Jesus spoke about the material nature of the flesh and of inmaterial / spiritual nature of the souls of each man. Mind exists because I have a body and living energy in it, yet both aren´t not made of the same elements. As God is Spirit (Jn 4:24) I´m also a body abled to have a living spirit.
11) Jesus praised the open and spontaneous attitude of Zacheus. His decision was sharing half of his wealth with the needy and the giving back of the money "he might have gotten the wrong way" from his people, as a restitution (Lk 19:8). Zacheous willfully turned away to follow God´s ways as a son of Abraham (Lk 19:9). What a change of mind! That was the same attitude His apostles did when they also left what they have to serve and study from Him. John´s teaching was coherent with Jesus´ (Lk 3:11) John sought the turning back to mercy and frugal compassion (Lk 3:13-14b) where several hearts were turned back to repentance and love (Lk 1:17b). Did John called people to live like a poor? No! It wasn´t a call to the material abandonement he was living for years and, properly, Zacheous left 50 percent of what he had! Who would not turn back to love and justice that way?
It could be assumed Jesus was living the same way John would have lived (Matt 3:11, 14) and John witnessed himself what he saw in Jesus, for He was blameless and it was proved to him GOD chose Him (Jn 1:29, 31, 33-34). Something special he attested about Jesus (Jn 1:30; Lk 3:6). Can I believe Jesus was morally coherent when asking those things He asked His followers and apostles? (Matt. 19:27, 29). Yes! If He was rich His lifetime He left what He earthly got to serve His Father those years in preaching. He had no place to dwell or sleep (Matt. 8:20) because He wanted His followers to depend on God´s daily provisions and He surely left a bunch of things behind (Lk 9:61-62).
Jesus was morally and spiritually fitted to ask those things He left Himself first (Jn 10:38).
12) Does the church have power to save people and itself, as the RCC believed, as well with many people? (Matt. 7:22-23). For "on that night there will be two in one bed; one will be taken... There will be two grinding the same place... one will be left." (Lk 17:34-36) Where am I resting or grinding now?
To be continued… September 22, 2014
